Matthias with Zombies

[Bunter]

Here is an old deck I like slightly reworked. Any ideas to improve?????

Deck Name: Matthias and Zombies
Author: Anthony Coleman
Description:
Use Matthias to force people to tap, bleed with dominate stuff - profit.

Zombies for defense/oppertunism.

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=7 avg=4.75)
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1x Francesca Giovanni 4 dom nec pot Giovanni:2
1x Gloria Giovanni 4 nec DOM Giovanni:2
1x Isabel de Leon 3 AUS Toreador:2
2x Le Dinh Tho 5 aus dom NEC Nagaraja:2
1x Lia Milliner 3 dom nec Giovanni:3
1x Marciana Giovanni, Investigator 2 dom Giovanni:2
4x Matthias 7 nec AUS FOR OBE Salubri:2
1x Rudolfo Giovanni 3 NEC Giovanni:2

Library (80 cards)
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Master (15)
1x Coven, The
1x Dominate
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
4x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Morgue Hunting Ground
3x Necromancy
2x Villein

Event (1)
1x Unmasking, The

Action (10)
10x Spirit Marionette

Equipment (1)
1x Monocle of Clarity

Ally (13)
1x Ambrosius, The Ferryman (Wraith)
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1x Leonardo, Mortician
10x Shambling Hordes

Action Modifier (22)
6x Call of the Hungry Dead
4x Change of Target
8x Conditioning
4x Repulsion

Reaction (10)
6x Deflection
4x On the Qui Vive

Combat (4)
4x Spiritual Intervention

Combo (4)
4x Spectral Divination

Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (May 25, 2010 19:12:50)

[squidalot]

I did try this (and built it for you for a random event maybe?) and I found that it was a little hard to play:

1.blood issues are an issue due to Nec being expensive - even with the heidlebergs and marionettes and leonardo

2. Mattias only having nec is very distressing and I see you've gone for a nec skill master to fix that so that might help a lot.

3. with this mix of the crypt there's little opportunity to use governs (hence none in there) or sudario refraction and I think these are two of the best cards Giovanni have access to

Not a bad deck just suffers when compared to other shambles or mattias decks.

[Bunter]

I did try this (and built it for you for a random event maybe?) and I found that it was a little hard to play:

1.blood issues are an issue due to Nec being expensive - even with the heidlebergs and marionettes and leonardo

2. Mattias only having nec is very distressing and I see you've gone for a nec skill master to fix that so that might help a lot.

3. with this mix of the crypt there's little opportunity to use governs (hence none in there) or sudario refraction and I think these are two of the best cards Giovanni have access to

Not a bad deck just suffers when compared to other shambles or mattias decks.

Yeah, I dont think it will ever be as good as straight Zombie, or say !ven marrionette - but it uses le din and my favourite bearded tramp, and also has good use for using monocle of clarity

I tried to make it a bit simpler as I agree it was a little hard to play in previous incarnations.

That said I do think it is viable for more casual games.

[Kushiel]

Ambroisius should be Tye Cooper.

Eight Conditioning seems like a lot to me, but that's probably just a difference in playstyles.

[squidalot]

Ambroisius should be Tye Cooper.

Eight Conditioning seems like a lot to me, but that's probably just a difference in playstyles.

please recall that soem of the conditionings will be played by 'volunteers' to the beared army and that there are no governs - 8 doesn'ty seem unreasonable in 80!

i'm more concerned with using monocle in a friendly deck!

[Bunter]

Ambroisius should be Tye Cooper.

Eight Conditioning seems like a lot to me, but that's probably just a difference in playstyles.

please recall that soem of the conditionings will be played by 'volunteers' to the beared army and that there are no governs - 8 doesn'ty seem unreasonable in 80!

i'm more concerned with using monocle in a friendly deck!

Monocle is there just so you know when to use le din. Le din can be very bad if you help your prey cycle into that wake!

Ant

[jamesatzephyr]

I once faced a fairly nasty Giovanni deck that was able to use Puppeteer to good effect to steal small vampires. Might be useful here.

I was going to suggest a possible include of Acquired Ventrue Assets to ease the blood issues. Jozxyqk and Vtesocrates convinced me a while back that it's actually a reasonable card - and if someone burns it instead of bleeding you, it's still a reasonable outcome. Then I actually counted the number of Giovanni you have, and was surprised at how low it is.

[mikelosaurus]

If you're going to do this, surely you have to use Martyr's Resilience...?

[Shockwave]

I once faced a fairly nasty Giovanni deck that was able to use Puppeteer to good effect to steal small vampires. Might be useful here.

I was going to suggest a possible include of Acquired Ventrue Assets to ease the blood issues. Jozxyqk and Vtesocrates convinced me a while back that it's actually a reasonable card - and if someone burns it instead of bleeding you, it's still a reasonable outcome. Then I actually counted the number of Giovanni you have, and was surprised at how low it is.

I described Powerbase: Baranquilla in the same way to John. Even if you never pull a single pool off it, it's still probably profitable relative to the other actions they might have taken instead.

[GreenO]

Have you seen Yannick Gilbert's recent Marionette deck:

http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2010fncqlyon

It's got some pretty strong ideas, including the anarch revolt/monkey wrench module which is pretty damned cool.

Shamblers for defence and the rest to make mischief:

Deck Name : 3 eyed anarchist zombie stitchers
Author : Matt Green
Description :



Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 7 average: 4.75
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4x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
3x Matthias 7 AUS FOR OBE nec Salubri:2
2x Egothha 7 AUS FOR NEC obf Harbinger:2
2x Agaitas, The Schol 6 AUS NEC for Harbinger:2
1x Raful al-Zarqa 6 AUS dom nec obf Nagaraja:2


Library [80 cards]
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Action [12]
12x Spirit Marionette

Action Modifier [25]
5x Call of the Hungry Dead
4x Change of Target
5x Daring the Dawn
3x Freak Drive
5x Monkey Wrench
3x Repulsion

Action Modifier / Reaction [3]
3x Gift of Sleep

Ally [11]
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
10x Shambling Hordes

Equipment [1]
1x Erebus Mask

Event [2]
1x Scourge of the Enochians
1x Unmasking, The

Master [16]
6x Anarch Revolt
1x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Giant's Blood
3x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
2x Pentex(TM) Subversion
3x Villein

Reaction [10]
3x On the Qui Vive
7x Telepathic Misdirection

[Shockwave]

I like that deck a lot!

(Now, to get the copies of Matthias, or make a Eurayle version!)

[ReidBowen]

Hmmm ... I like this very much, obviously the Hordes can rush your prey's anarchs too (as opposed to you simply stealing and burning them with the Monkey Marionette @ Dawn combo).

Verrrrry interesting.

[Shockwave]

How do you get their Vampires to be Anarchs so they can play the Monkey Wrenches? Just encourage them via Revolt?

[ReidBowen]

How do you get their Vampires to be Anarchs so they can play the Monkey Wrenches? Just encourage them via Revolt?

Methinks they are simply encouraged.

[GreenO]

Nothing stops your own vampires playing monkey wrenches and refilling them through the Castles.